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“I mean in France we have a whole bunch of clichés about Americans…
The average French thinks that Americans are fat, sweaty, ignorant, that they wear noisy flip flops over their socks everyday and can’t help having ridiculously strange face expressions whatever they do or say.
WORST: A lot of French people sincerely think Americans kinda deserved what happened to them on 9-11, considering it as “a big slap in the face of a noisy spoiled kid”.”

Links ?

REAL LIFE

@Fred Orth :

If you’d ask me  I would replied that they’re a bunch of lazy communists, that’s why there are strikes at the univeristy, but I doubt many share my views ahah 😛

NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

My real life tells me different things.

French-bashing apologists always use the “it’s ok, the French do the same” defense.
Miquelon.org being a well document site, provide links to support your assertions, some of them being pretty serious.
Second of all I will argue that fat and stupid are nowhere near as offensive as the mocking of our dead and the complete revision of history that those surrender jokes imply.

I’m sorry I’m not motivated enough to look for French anti-americanism sites on the net…

Ma parole ne suffit pas, je le conçois, mais je peux pas croire que si vous étiez en France en Septembre 2001 vous n’ayez pas entendu des “quelquepart ça leur fait du bien” ou des “joli coup”, moi j’ai plus d’un ami qui ont eu cette réaction, des amis de mes parents aussi, ça n’a pas l’air générationel…

I’m ok on the fact that trashing a people’s memory is going further than trashing a people’s appearance.

But there were deads on the 9-11 too right??

And do we really have to compare the offensiveness of our respective dissing??  I’d feel like I’m doing a yo momma battle with a 15 yo kid seriously.

I’m not in the USA and I frankly hope you’re just overreacting, I feel like we’re really discriminated in the US when reading this site…

Can’t we expect friendly behaviour from the locals if we work in the US?

I mean when I meet an american in France, I’m really happy to share because I love American culture, and I don’t have any préjugé that would reffrain me from trying to start a discussion and why not a friendship. Even if I have some clichés about them, because of my foreign eye, even if I disagree with their politics towards social problems, with their war against ghost weapons in Iraq or  with their support to Israel colonialism, I have a brain that know I’m in front of a human being who’s as unique as me, which means I have as much to learn from him as He has to learn from me.

Americans have brains too, so there’s no reason to fear relations with them, am I wrong??

Average J-M (125),  French-bashing is prevelant in the Southwest and parts of the S0uth (Red States).  I have seen absolutely rude situations where a few Americans will be confrontational. The problem is that only a few fellow southerners will confront this rude ignorance. I must tell you, though, I have seen especially southerners rude to all non-English world persons, regardless of nationality. Over time, with a lot of education, hopefully this will improve.

” I have seen especially southerners rude to all non-English world persons, regardless of nationality. Over time, with a lot of education, hopefully this will improve”

Very true. Very sad.

Looks like they’ve launched the U.S.S. Freedom anti-pirate ship. Blast, “freedom” is a word you just can’t avoid in the U.S. nowadays. I remember, last time I was in the U.S. around 2004 for a couple of months, all I could hear was “freedom”. Freedom this, freedom that, freedamn, dammit!

– “Their women are easy/promiscuous.”

easy? I know this cliché for american women in France but french women????
If they believe that i can understand they bash France after meeting the first french woman in their life… I mean even expecting a smile is really naive actually…

“”Jane Says:
December 18th, 2008 at 12:04 am

I find it bizarre to hear all these French people complaining about people being anti-french when you are notorious for being major assholes to americans and being extremely anti-american. So why not shine light on both issues and defeat them together. that way the French aren’t being discriminated against and neither are the Americans. everyone wins!””
 
I understand some things a little more clearly now…

Another French Hater on twitter with his own blog. Too cowardly to publish his real identity or whois. An advertising executive in France who has a pathological hatred for all things French.

My comment over at AMC: What a great article ! One little correction, I believe you meant Alain DELON not DELOIN !

There was a pretty lame joke some years ago about Delon/Deloin. It went a little something like this:
Ugly person says: my friends say I look like Alain Deloin
Other friend: you mean Delon?
Ugly person: no really, they say I look like Alain, but from far away (de loin)…
Vieille blague des Inconnus

Robert Silva corrects the post and gives us a nod!

He forgot the most famous french actor in Germany: Pierre Brice, who played Karl May’s indian warrior Winnetou in a series of Sauerkraut-Westerns. The part made him famous, but he was forever associated with it.

Other french actors who made westerns: Roger Hanin, Jean-Louis Trintignant (Il Grande Silenzio), Pierre Perret (Le Juge, where he played Judge Roy Bean), and Johnny Halliday (Le Spécialiste).

#27
“”Another French Hater on twitter with his own blog.””

Seriously, I’m not sure if this guy is serious or not. If he is, his blog entries are beyond retarded. It’s as if it was written by 10 year old ffrance.com reject.
I cannot believe this is real.

News alert : White House Spokesman Robert Gibbs says 9/11 not joking matter! Re : Wanta Sykes

Changing the subject, The Economist, May 9th issue, page 39, has a discussion on Saint Pierre & Miquelon.

Yes, I posted it on RadioBarachois.com. The French government did deliver a letter of intent to the UN. This will probably take decades to settle.

Hope you all like the new layout, the page is not as tall and more information is available,  incl. twitter !

Appreciate the new layout. Saves me having to spend money to get into twitter. My medical bills keep going up and I really can’t afford to buy the latest “thing”.

It’s official, I’m now addicted to twitter. By mining favorite searches I can immediately reply to anti-French jokes on a daily basis. So far the reactions have been very varied from (a) hostility (b) annoyance (c) apologies to (d) new friends !

Sisyphe ou Don Quichotte?

Funny how 9/11 isn’t funny but disasters suffered by others is fair game.

2000 ans d’histoire. La campagne de France mai-juin 1940 http://bit.ly/18ndah
Cette émission est si intéressante que j’aimerais en faire un résumé pour le site. 100 000 morts en quelques jours, 2000 soldats français morts par jour, la bataille de Lille, la sauvegarde de l’armée britannique par les troupes françaises, le colonel de Gaulle, la duplicité de Paul Raynaud, le défaitisme de l’état major, mais des millions d’hommes qui se sont battus !

Hey guys and gals,
I haven’t written in awhile because  the arguement seems to be getting a little repetitive but I saw something today that I thought you might want to check out.

There is a new movie coming out called “In the loop.” I saw the trailer to it and right at the end is something I know you are not going to like. I’ve provided the link. It’s on Youtube in case the link doesn’t work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQrqMkCuHqA&feature=player_embedded

This sounds like a British movie but I can see many of the scenes are in the U.S. But I’m pretty sure it was made by the Brits. If so, I want to tell you a story about the Brits in and earlier American History you will not believe. Let me check more into this first. In the mean time, watch this trailer and tell me if you can who made it.

Actually, that line makes sense because it is in character. Gandolfini is play an arrogant bullish american officer, so the line about France makes sense within that frame.

Seems like a mildly interesting movie. Am too busy right now, but I want to blog about a French history show that was on the radio a couple of days ago. It’s about the fall of France and the courageous acts of the French army before it was betrayed by its leadership.

I don’t get you guys. That line is truely a major putdown and it doesn’t bother you. Yet you have 14 pages complaining about a couple of jokes from a show that makes jokes to show how stupid and bigoted  the people making the jokes are. I give up.

Context. The clip you showed portrays a hard ass US military officer. His put down of France is typical of the mind set he represents. His comment is about WHO he is, now WHAT he says.

Southpark’s foray into France’s history is another matter as it is a caricature of an event that is turned into a character trait for the nation as a whole. Southpark reinforces the meme. Southpark is about WHAT they said through a non-descript character, not about WHOM.

Very well put, Marc.

Wayne, it’s like this. You can have a show with Hitler saying Jews are greedy, or you can have a show with a greedy Jewish character.

See what I mean? The Hitler show isn’t offensive (well, sorta) because it’s expected that Hitler will say that sort of thing.

However, the second is, as it would merely be perpetrating the “greedy Jew” meme.

[…] You called my people cowards on a nightly basis for years based on your skewed perception of events in World War II and your willingness to please the Bush administration before and during the Iraq war. [Read Jay’s Anti-French material] […]

It is a well worn myth embraced by many ignorant Americans that the French forces folded quickly and without bloodshed. Actually the defeat was caused by failures of the General staff and the surpise tactics of the German blitzkrieg.  Ihe British Expeditionary Forces were also defeated but through German hesitation and attacks by French and some isolated British units kept pressure on the other German units. Notably, De Gaulle distinguished himself  in attacks that blunted German armor. The war would have been much different if his opinions on tactics and organization had held sway in the General Staff before the war. 
France was our first ally and I hope that our interests will always be close enough that we will always ne allies. Vive La France!

Why are there so many trees on the sidewalks of France?

So the Germans can march in the shade !!

There was never anything even remotely humorous in these “jokes”. Leno should have kept his humor to making “fun” of  American targets. Nobody deserves these insults. Would he find insults thrown at Americans about 9/11 or Vietnam funny? I don’t think so.

It wasn’t that the French never tried anything to defend their nation..it was just that they got their asses handed to them so spectacularly while doing so..

Americans have NO business making these insults. If we didn’t have the Atlantic and Pacific, with high tech and well armed opposition such as Japan and Germany on our borders, how well would we have done with virtually no tanks, minimal weaponrey, and limited air power. We would have been overrun faster than we were  in the Philipines. Remember, 1940 was not 1944 or 45 and we were minimal at best.

Awww boo hoo some french guy is sad, noone cares what you think.

Q – Why does the US Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor have glass bottoms?
A – So it can see the old US Pacific fleet at Pearl Harbor.
Awwww……now who can’t see the humor in that? 

Thank you Poilu, you’ve made the point of how awarkward it is to joke about the dead of an Ally. The US, Canada, France, Australia, New Zeeland and the UK are historical brothers in the struggle to preserve liberty, equality and fraternity. To this end, we have added Japan, the EU memberstates South Korea, India and others are comming. The least honorable thing that Allies can do is to insult and belittle those who were before us and with us in this struggle of preservation. An insult against one is a direct insult against all.

If we had the Japanese and Germans on our border during 1930’s – 40’s, we would have armed ourselves in a wink of an eye and built up an owesome military (which we did later after we got involved in WW2)  It was precisely because we were protected by the Altantic Ocean which meant that  Germany could not invade nor bomb us from an ocean away that we were so defenseless.

So Jay is evil now? But not Saddam.

How much of americains is needed for defendre two tours, us not soap spas it never has was made have you of the humor now

@Nick

Saddam was an evil idiot, Leno only an idiot

Whoa, look at all the Bushitters! You might consider moving with him to Waco and form a court-in-exile, like Napoléon in Saint Helena. Then you’ll be able to remember the good old days, when the United States acted like jerks and set off on pointless half-assed “wars” (if you can call razing undevelopped countries with shitty militaries a “war”) and pissing your neighbors off.

That’s not America. That’s Uhhmerica, Murka, and Yoonatedsteights.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

It seems some anti-French xenophobes have found their way into this thread…
What a bunch of losers.

How many Americans does it take to defend a skyscraper ?
Don’t know, never been tried.

Q – What is Al-Qaida’s favorite football team?
A – The New York Jets

Anyone hear about the One Legged Man at the Bataan Death March?

…….waiting for the approval of the Joke and Humor Gods Mike, Bob, and Jazz.

The US Army’s new fitness program includes a state-of-the-art treadmill with the following settings:

“Walk”, “Jog”, “Run”, and “Kasserine Pass”. 

The Iraq war saw the use of the new top-secret “bunker buster” bombs. The US High Command was right to assume that a 400-pound American dropped from the sky was sure to smash through anything in his path.

@Andre, that “undevelopped countries with shitty militaries” invaded two of its neighbors ( Kuwait & Iran) , not to mention gassed the Kurds.
Iraq had a “shitty military”?  Then French weapons must be “shitty” since Germany and France were Saddam’s biggest weapons suppliers.  France also had no problem helping a brutal dictator like Saddam build nuclear reactors .  German helped Saddam build chemical factories capable of dual use. When Saddam gassed the Kurds he used French  planes and German chemicals to do the job. 

PS1:  I didn’t support the Iraq war but it is too much to hear German & French hypocritical moralizing lectures about Iraq when those two countries have their dirty fingerprints all over Saddam’s Iraq .

PS2: It is not “undeveloped” but ‘underdeveloped countries’. Also I think most Iraqis would find this term rude and offensive. Since this is a website devoted to figting offensive remarks about France, one should practise what they preach.

PS3: Those who suffered under Saddam haven’t forgotten who Saddam’s best friends were even if the French and Germans have.  The following is an article written by a Kurd in response to German lectures about human rights in Iraq.

http://www.newmajority.com/ShowScrol…3-1123b8be8696

FORGETTING SADDAM’S VICTIMS

I must admit that I was astonished when I recently read in the newspaper that a German parliamentary delegation was visiting Iraqi Kurdistan and that the head of the delegation, Herta Däubler-Gmelin, had made critical remarks about the situation of human rights in the region.

As someone who survived the Iraqi army’s poison gas attack on Halabja, I may be permitted to make some comments on Ms. Däubler-Gmelin’s visit.

If Ms. Däubler-Gmelin had had her way, Saddam would still be sitting safe and sound in one of his palaces in Baghdad and no changes would have been possible in this country.

And after 2003, it was people like her – and so many others in Europe – that showed no concern for the changes and developments underway in Iraq. We did not have the impression that the terror unleashed by Al-Qaeda upon the people of Iraq gave them any sleepless nights either. On the contrary, for years they seemed to welcome the suffering of the Iraqis as proof that the overthrow of Saddam Hussein had been a mistake.

How can you claim the right to criticize our present situation without saying anything about our past?

WE HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THAT GERMANY HELPED SADDAM HUSSEIN TO BUILD THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS THAT WERE USED AGAINST US IN HALABJA

For many years now, Kurdish organizations have been demanding that GERMANY AT LEAST OFFER AN OFFICIAL APOLOGY FOR THIS CRIME. No such apology has been forthcoming.

Our politicians ought then to insist that such visitors pay their respects to all the victims of the poison gas attacks on Halabja, Balisan, Goptapa, Saussanan and elsewhere, to all the persons who went missing during the Iraqi army’s Anfal campaign, to all those who were tortured and killed by Saddam. Instead they allow someone like Ms. Däubler-Gmelin to come to our country without making her first stop at Halabja.

I am convinced that if Ms. Däubler-Gmelin had travelled to Israel under similar circumstances, she would have been required to visit Yad Vashem. Only after commemorating the victims and the German crime against them would she have been allowed to express her criticisms.

I would like therefore to say to the people of Iraqi Kurdistan that the

COMMENTS OF MS.DAUBLER-GMELIN SHOULD NOT BE REGARDED AS CRITICISM BUT RATHER AS ONE LAST DOSE OF POISON.

administered by people who evidently have still not come to terms with the new situation in Iraq.

I found all the jokes about the USA a bit stale as they are mostly copy cat versions of American jokes about France. 

Come on, be original and come up with your own jokes. These copycat versions lack the originality needed to land that punch.

 Both American French-bashers and French American-bashers are idiots, no matter your purpose. I don’t care if the French Bashers started it, you’re just as bad. Why sink to their level? Don’t give me those cheesy excuses like “thats the only way to fight them”. You should knock it off, it doesn’t matter who started it as long as you are doing the same thing you are just as bad. Not to mention alienating.

This will become nothing more than a bunch of unintelligent xenophobic comments on both sides of the aisles. Look what the French-bashers reduced you too! congratulations.