“Just like De Gaulle’s shameful attitude to the anglo-saxons who sheltered him during the war and then liberated his country, this is not a behaviour of an ally.”
Yeah, well, if you’vfe been treated by your “friends” the way De Gaulle was treated by the British and (especially) the Americans, you would have been pretty peeved too. For starters, the majority of the french soldiers who had been evacuated at Dunkerque were sent back to France as soon as they landed in England, thus depriving him of troops right away. Then, there was Mers El Kebir. Then, the attitude of Roosevelt, who considered Pétain as the true leader of France. And it goes on: not being told of the landing in Algeria, being snubbed for leadrship of the French army in favour of admiral Darlan (Pétain’s chosen successor), and then Giraud, the project to see France administered by an AMGOT, being (along with China) snubbed at Yalta, protection given by the CIA to wanted war criminals like Lammerding or Barbie, and so on..
And it kept on after the war: remember Suez ? Frankly, you would have been in his place, you would have been pissed off too. Read “Strange Allies” to get a better idea. Ingratitude, you say ? Good memory, I’ll say.
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Clearly, this mr wAss has something to hide since he has no reason to reject a foreign flag…
Specially when it was permitted in the past:
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Ann Coulter is not enlighted, and the content of this article is nothing new. But it can be considered as a piece of French bashing. It is surprising to see Locke (a pro-slavery philosopher by the way, and a Briton) quoted as an authority for the American revolution. And of course … c’est la faute à Rousseau ! In short, Hitler=Obama=Mao=French revolution=J-J Rousseau vs G. Bush=America=Locke=Ann Coulter
C’est curieux car la photo de l’Huffington Post est un montage manifeste. Il n’y a pas de gratte-ciels à côté de l’Arc-de-Triomphe, ils sont loin, à la Défense. Pourquoi ce trucage bizarre ? Cela suggère que l’Arc de Triomphe serait inséré dans des bâtiments.
Ce soir, le présentateur américain et piètre comédien, Jay Leno, s’est permis de faire une n-ième blague anti-Française au sujet des uniformes de l’équipe américaine aux jeux olympiques. Qualifiant la coiffe de ‘béret français’, Leno s’est esclaffé en associant de nouveau tout ce qui est Français à la poltronnerie et l’esprit capitulard censé nous caractériser de manière perpétuelle aux yeux de certains américains. Le plus ironique, c’est que M Leno, ayant des racines Italiennes, ignore que les blagues anti-Françaises des années 2000 sont en fait des blagues anti-Italiennes qui remontent à seconde guerre mondiale. Je déplore bien entendu cette odieuse équivalence entre notre pays, notre peuple et des traits de caractère dévalorisants et avilissants.
En deçà d’un seuil minimal d’intelligence il est vain d’essayer d’éduquer un individu, le dressage s’avère seul approprié, malheureusement l’homme descend du singe, le singe descend de l’arbre, Jay Leno a certainement raté quelques branches.
Je suis d’accord avec FAZ. Je ne vois pas l’intérêt ni la possibilité d’éduquer quelqu’un comme Jay Leno. D’ailleurs c’est son gagne-pain. Est-il bien nécessaire de parler de quelqu’un comme ça ?
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Great news: Lance Armstrong has been stripped of his ill-gotten titles.
I remember too well the frenhc-bashing that occurred when we expressed doubts at his claims that he was not doped. “The French are jealous !”, they said. “They can’t get over the fact that an American is winning their Tour de France !”, they say.
Well, now we are vindicated ! And that feels good !
Doesn’t it feel great !? Maybe Peter Carr will amend his paper titled “Lance Armstrong and George W. Bush: French Anti-Americanism and Texan Traditionalism in le Tour and the War ”
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J’aurais tendance à être d’accord, je ne vois pas vraiment de “french-bashing”, au pire juste un petit aperçu du “monde intérieur” d’une chanteuse pop. Dommage que le site semble en hibernation, par contre, il est vrai que la période vraiment hystérique semble être derrière nous – pour l’instant -, mais j’aimerais voir un suivi du french-bashing “interiorisé” par la conscience américaine.
Il y a vraiment une strate qui s’est rajoutée aux différentes autres représentations négatives accumulées du “Français”, et qui ne partira plus, pas d’illusions là dessus… et qui semble s’être grêffée pour de bon dans la scène politique ultra-polarisée moderne, côté républicains.
Il y a une frange, observable dans le GOP contemporain, qui présente un aspect tribal – je pèse mes mots -, et émotionnel que je trouve à la fois fascinant et troublant (pré-fasciste?), 30 ans après la “reagan revolution”… avec le “Français” en totem de cette identité tribale.
Et le tout sans base idéologique, construite,… juste une vraie haine, parmis bien d’autres, autour de laquelle le groupe, pas si marginal que ça, avec une vraie présence médiatique, se rassemble.
Allez faire un tour dans le commentariat en ligne du “parti de la guerre”, les différents breibart, les différents military.com, les gros forums type free republic ou arf15.com,… en gros tous les sites “conservateurs viande rouge” : un véritable marigot, avec la vision d’une France ENNEMIE, antisémite, promise à être islamisée dans les 5 ans, promise à disparaitre très prochainement et bon débarras, socialiste, communiste, génétiquement lâche (référence au drapeau blanc désormais PAVOVLIEN), pro-nazie par essence, qui fait se réjouir le bon spectateur quand des “frogs” sont tués à l’écran dans “master & command”,…
Même la “mainstream” fox news autorise des commentaires se réjouissant de la mort de soldats français, combattant pourtant aux côtés des USA.
Je le répète, une vision du monde pré-fasciste (j’écris celà en étant moi-même relativement “à droite”, et avec un attachement culturel certain aux USA, via mes loisirs, mes écrivains, cinéastes,…), et une haine effective de la France comme marqueur identitaire – je n’ose pas écrire idéologique, parce qu’il n’y a rien derrière cette “tendance”, juste de l’émotionnel négatif utilisé pour motiver les troupes
AMHA, tout celà est bien plus important que des tweets de chanteuse pour midinettes, parce que celà fait désormais et pour très longtemps parti du paysage culturel et politique local, et parce un des deux partis uniques US, celui des dingues, nous voit (ou en tous cas nous “instrumentalise”, à consomation interne) désormais comme des ennemis.
i put your long winded blather into the google translater and guess what i done found….
hey buddy, how bout you mind yer own business, then you wont be mindin mine
not much point even goin into details bout the excesses , debauchery and arrogances of french culture and whatnot, its in plain view, even if some of us pretend it aint there, or that bad is good, black is white, bulls**t smells like a sweet sweet french perfume, in a society where the lawyers are the priests
no sir, i say mind yer own business and you wont be mindin mine, dont y’all got french things to talk about?
in france maybe?
The context is specific – this was her reaction to the mayhem caused by her own tweet and the overwhelming droves of fans that showed up at the train station. The insanity was that of hordes of fans – not caused by their nationality as the tweet would have you believe. Anyway, that’s enough time wasted on this ! At least we can be thankful we don’t have much more to write about here save the constant anti-French noise on twitter from wanna-be comics and right-wing commentators.
Bonsoir, j’aimerais poster ici ma réaction au film Madagascar 3. Au passage, je n’ai pas vu sur votre site de rubrique ‘French bashing au cinéma’ avec une liste des films et des séries qui le pratiquent. Y en a-t-il une ?
Madagascar 3 :
J’ai fait l’erreur d’emmener ma fille voir ce film, pensant que je passerais un bon moment avec elle. Que techniquement parlant cette animation soit bien réalisée, comme toutes celles du genre, n’est pas la question. Ça n’est qu’un film anti-Français de plus. Et visiblement, à en juger par les réactions enthousiastes de Français laissées sur divers sites, ça n’a pas l’air d’émouvoir grand monde.
Pour ma part, je suis consterné une fois de plus de voir que peu de personnes relèvent se fait et s’en indignent. Comment peut-on être à ce point déconnecté des réalités politiques, voir un film qui insulte tout du long votre identité, et trouver ça super ? Le ‘French bashing’, à mes yeux, ne sont pas juste des blagues inoffensives plus ou moins légitimes, qui s’inscriraient dans le contexte d’une rivalité politique passagère. C’est l’expression d’un racisme : un racisme socialement acceptable aux États-Unis, là où aucun autre ne l’est, et qui est en train de s’installer dans le paysage audiovisuel globalisé, hors contexte politique, de façon permanente.
J’aimerais insister sur ce point : les Français qui pensent que le showbiz Américain s’amuse sympathiquement avec eux, façon clin d’œil, comme participant à une autocritique de la France se trompent. Ils se font avoir par l’impression de familiarité bon enfant qui émane du cinéma Américain et de ses icônes commerciales populaires, omniprésentes dans leur vie. Cette logique d’infériorisation de notre identité a su insidieusement s’intégrer à notre société, aidée en cela par des intérêts commerciaux, au point où beaucoup d’entre nous en viennent à la voir comme une donnée intérieure, une critique humoristique à la Française. Il n’en est rien.
Ce harcèlement émane d’un corps étranger dominant et belliqueux pour qui seuls comptent les USA. Il vient de gens qui ignorent, méprisent ou haïssent la France, ses gens, son histoire, sa culture, et par dessus tout sa politique, pour n’en retenir que les clichés les plus avilissants et les plus dégradants. Ces films ne sont pas conçus pour rire avec vous et pour vous faire rire, ils ont pour fonction d’humilier la France et de la désigner au monde entier comme un objet de moquerie, voir de persécution.
Pas votre problème ? Les écrans de toutes tailles éduquent l’humanité. Hollywood, c’est l’école d’une bonne partie de la planète. Avez-vous déjà vu ce documentaire montrant une classe d’école Allemande vers la fin des années 30, où le prof Nazi éduquait ses élèves sur les juifs en faisant des grimaces : « ils sont laids, ils puent, etc. » Ce à quoi les élèves répondaient par des rires. Si les Allemands, à l’époque, avaient fait des films divertissants et animés, trouveriez-vous normal que des juifs soient allé les voir au cinéma pour s’en amuser et se moquer d’eux-mêmes ? Ou des noirs et des arabes avec des films coloniaux dégradants ? Alors pourquoi n’est-ce pas la même chose pour nous ?
J’évoquais l’éducation pour la haine des juifs, mais la motivation est similaire. A l’époque, Français et Allemands se haïssaient, mais entre les deux guerres, s’en prendre ouvertement l’un à l’autre était trop dangereux. Alors les Allemands se sont mis à taper sur les juifs. Dans un très bon article traitant du même sujet et datant de 2006 (1), le journaliste Américain William Arnold citait le cinéaste Jim Jarmusch: « Nous sommes en guerre contre le terrorisme islamique, mais nous avons peur de les caricaturer dans les films […], alors nous nous en prenons aux Français. Ils font une cible facile. » Ce à quoi le cinéaste Oliver Stone ajoutait « Et ce qui n’arrange rien, c’est que les Français ne bronchent pas. »
A l’origine des sentiments anti-Français aux USA, on trouve notamment de vieilles rivalités entre des nations protestantes comme l’Angleterre, la Hollande et l’Allemagne, avec celles catholiques comme la France, qui avec le temps se sont inscrites dans l’inconscient collectif comme une sorte de réflexe. Mais ce qui se passe aujourd’hui a surtout commencé avec l’attitude de défiance théâtrale de de Gaulle face aux USA. Après avoir sérieusement irrité les alliés durant la guerre, de Gaulle a choisit de faire double jeu avec l’Union Soviétique, d’expulser l’Otan de Paris et de lâcher la jeune nation Israélienne en faveur d’une politique pro-Arabe, qui a perdurée. L’antipathie viscérale d’une partie d’Hollywood, -très- pro Israélienne, vient de là. En s’amusant à rejouer l’acte de de Gaulle, Chirac a mit le feu aux poudres. Désormais, une partie de l’Amérique du showbiz, des affaires, des médias, de la politique et de la rue, s’est donné pour réflexe de nous haïr.
Depuis, Hollywood s’est aperçu qu’il y avait en prime un marché pour ce type de produit, avec un public réceptif, prêt à s’amuser d’un racisme convenable dans un monde autrement verrouillé par le politiquement correct. Ce qui fait aussi le jeu de Washington. Les politiciens Américains se servent du bouc émissaire Français afin de détourner l’attention du public des crises domestiques et des bodybags qui reviennent d’Iraq.
Un journaliste Français remarquait que depuis Pearl Harbour, Hollywood ne s’était jamais à ce point investi dans un tel programme d’agression systématique ciblé contre une nation particulière. Depuis la Matrix 2 des frères Wachowski, les films racistes anti-Français sont légions. Ils sont aussi multi culturels. La Chine, comme le reste du monde, est édifiée sur le thème : dans Rush Hours 3, avec Jackie Chan, lorsque l’un des vilains asiatiques est capturé, il se met à bafouiller quelques mots en Français. Le coéquipier de Chan lui jette : « Cesse de t’humilier ! »
Avec Master and Commander, là où le roman d’O’Brian mettait en scène un vaisseau ennemi Américain, les producteurs du film ont souhaité ne pas offenser le public de ce pays. Le vaisseau devient Français : « C’était bien plus intéressant ! » déclarait Weir. Citons encore Nous Étions Soldats, qui m’avait profondément offensé dans son traitement méprisant des soldats Français d’Indochine. Et il en est peu des nombreuses séries Américaines qui n’ai pas au moins un épisode où les Français sont caricaturés de façon dégradante. La liste est longue (voir l’article de William Arnold ci-dessous, pour la seule année 2006). Tout ça venant d’une nation empire qui ne tolérerait jamais, ne serait-ce qu’un seul film étranger osant insulter son identité de la sorte, ou interpréter un épisode sensible de son histoire son un angle condescendant.
Honte aux acteurs tels Lambert-Wilson (the Matrix) et Jean Reno (Flushed Away), pour ne citer qu’eux, qui y collaborent. Honte aussi aux cinémas Français qui les projettent en salle.
La phase active de l’opposition politique de la France, outre qu’elle serait légitime si ce monde était vraiment libre, est passée depuis longtemps. Elle date de Chirac. Mais Madagascar 3 constitue un exemple de plus d’une persécution qui va continuer tant qu’il n’y aura qu’une minorité pour la dénoncer.
Tout cela c’est en effet plutôt sans grand intérêt. Le French Bashing risque de nous venir d’ailleurs dans les prochain jours et prochaines semaines vu l’actualité.
Tout cela c’est en effet plutôt sans grand intérêt. Le French Bashing risque de nous venir d’ailleurs dans les prochain jours et prochaines semaines vu l’actualité.
Bien d’accord. Ce qui me sidère, ce sont ces politiques – notamment des représentants des Français de l’étranger – qui sont prêts à sacrifier la liberté d’expression au nom d’une peur des conséquences pour leurs concitoyens dans ces pays tiers.
Il y même une sénatrice qui veut faire une proposition de loi pour imposer le respect des religions: “Il est plus urgent que jamais de concrétiser le respect dû aux croyances religieuses, quelles qu’elles soient. J’ai commencé à travailler sur une proposition de loi en ce sens.”
Kevin Berger, tu t’imagines que c’est une “greffe” mais ce n’est pas nouveau, c’est structurel depuis le 19e siècle, et ça n’a rien de “préfasciste”. Aux Etats-Unis il n’y a pas de “fascisme” à l’européenne, il y a une extrême droite culturelle plus que politique. Le KKK n’a jamais été un parti politique. La droite religieuse et les fondamentalistes ne sont pas fascistes, ils ne remettent pas en cause la démocratie. Inutile de faire un numéro complaisant d’alerte au fascisme, ce n’est pas une manière pertinente de présenter les choses.
Merci pour le ton condescendant, ça fait toujours plaisir. Excellent. Sinon, je reste sur mes positions, il y a VRAIMENT quelque chose de pourri au royaume du Danemark – c’est bien la bonne citation, hein? -, beaucoup moins folklo et à la marge que l’Aube dorée grecque… et je n’imagine pas avoir des fascistes cachés sous mon lit.
Le pseudo “conservatisme” US file un mauvais coton, celà aura des conséquences à terme pour la relation transatlantique, et un miquelon.org v2.0 pourrait s’attacher à une sorte de veille sur le sujet, maintenant que la phase purement hystérique du french-bashing semble derrière nous.
Je n’ai rien non plus contre rebondir sur le tweet d’une dinde chantante, remarquez.
Hey Mark Wiberg – Since we can’t comment on your site, would like to mention our statement explaining we are ‘Purely academic and charitable in nature’ is linked to our use of the Fair Use and specified by section 107 of the US Copyright act.
Also, we are not about curbing Free Speech but holding those who use it accountable. If you want to bash the French, you’re free to do so and we’re free to document it. Some politicians, journalists, comedians adhere to a certain type of ‘political correctness’ not so much out of an actual belief but because of societal conformity.
We like to point out the hypocrisy of those who act this way, who do show a level of political correctness on topics X, Y and Z – but slip up when it comes to the French.
Look at us, the French, as the litmus test for hypocrisy when it comes to political correctness.
Ok, let’s try this in english… I browsed through the article, not much to work with. It’s the boiler plate view of the French whinning about nothing, basically.
I guess it’s just that we’re supposed to take being the buttmonkey of the ‘anglo-saxon’ worldview in silence, as it fits, and maybe even thank our betters.
If the French do not go on with the program, they’re “arrogant”; if they speak back, they “whine”. Hell, just by existing, they irritate the tender sensibilities of the “adults” in charge, hence the insistance about how France has no history, no military history, no identity, no nothing… And anybody who has ever “argued” over the internet with some french-basher may discover that, if facts are (well) used against emotion-based “arguments”, the tender sensibilities are indeed very tender. Lots of insecurities and projections. Anyway.
Il parait que le bossu ne voit pas sa bosse, in this particular case, the hunchback does not see a good part of the last decade that was marked by a quasi-hysteria about the “fwench”. If he doesn’t “see” that, what is the point? Trying to have him put on the special sunglasses? BFD.
There really is NO point in answering that guy and his vanity website… what for? “Educate” him? Bring him some more views? The internet really is the place for all narcissists to expose themselves (la preuve, M. wilberg et ses photos de vacances, et moi et mon commentaire).
IGNORE-IGNORE-IGNORE.
The whole issue is that there is no changing the narratives, even bumping (crashing, rather) against the wall of Reality is unable to do that very thing.
Ideally it should be correct the lies, expose the slander, IGNORE the liars, the slanderers, they’re too stuck in the narratives (that word, again), their world is coming down as we speak, but they won’t notice.
If the fucking disaster that was the iraq was quietly swiped under the rug and has not even made a dent in the “french-bashing” mindset (frankly, every devout GOP’er should do as every devout ROP’er does, pray five times a day, but turned toward the Eiffel tower, and repeating “France was right, France was right, France was right”,… but I disgress)… What do you expect that engaging and trying to *reason* with true believers will accomplish?
IMHO, it’s futile to try and “educate” leno and the assorted muckrackers-for-hire, much less the vast army of online drones and narcissists. Ignore the fuckers, denounce their lies, and… savour the irony. Courteline had it right.
Didn’t the ‘great’ napoleon die in a British war prison, as a slave, shining british officers shoes. The reasons thqt so many frenxh here hate britain is because britain became a much more powerfull and important country than frqnce, that britain changed the world more tgqn any other nation in the history of the world, when britain created the industrial revolution and the entire modern worls, France qlso feel shqme because uk and usa rescues France in both world wars
I thibk that France qnd britain are both great nations, its just that britain is a bit greater, we took over the world while France could not, britain created usa, Canada, Australia, new Zealand, France did not create any countries like britain did. Britain mqde English the dominant world language, while French couldn’t do the same. The British empire was much bigger, richer and more powerfull than the French one. Britain still leads the huge commonwealth of over fifty countries, and our queen is there head of state, including canqda,Australia, new Zealand. Britain inventee more than any other nation in all human history, the best scientists are british, from Isaac newton to Charles Dickens, the list of British inventions is huge, even just in the last few years britain invented the world wide web and cloning and ivf. British popular modern culture dominates the whole world, our movies, television, music, videogames, books are the most popular in the world alongside America, France is a.million miles below britain when it comes to influence. In the whole world, there are only two alpha ++ cities, london and new York. London is the financial capital of the world, it is alao the aviation capital, music capital, insurance capital, cosmopolitqn capital, and the centre of world time, that’s no joke, London is Greenwich meantime, 0.00 hours, its set in London, as it reflecs britains total world dominqtion of the time. Britain has a history of constantly defeating France, from waterloo, to agincourt, to trafalger, to the hundreds year war, the thirty years war, the way britain took America and then canada, as France were not wtrong enough to rival britain. Britain is an island, so we always put our military effort and strength into our navy and airforce, france are on a cintinent, so concentrate mire in an army, if someone wants to defeat britqin, they need to be strong enough to fight the british navy and airforce, the German navy was weaker than britain, and the german qirforce wqs weaker than britain, so Germany failed to invade britain, and we totally defeated them. if britain was in the continent, like framce is, we would have concentrates more on an army like France did, but ours would have one. France fought Germany with their military, ans liat bqsly, britain fought geemqny with our military, magnificent navy and qirdorce, qnd won gloriously, when I think that britain was secured becauae of the bravery of the British pilots who destroyed the nazis in the battle of britain, after France had surrendered, it makes me proud to be British. Also ex French colonies are poor, while britain built hong kong, Singapore, malayaia, and made them very rich mega duties, tiger economies, we built their skyscrapers and made them rich, something frqnce found never do. There are only five great nations on earth
#1 great britain
#2 USA
#3 Canada
#4 Australia
#5 new Zealand
God bless the anglos
France was a primitive country before the English came and bought you some civilisation, then a few centuries later, we did the same again, when we invented the industrial revolution, and, after keeping it for ourselves for sixty years, to make us a much stronger nation than anybody else on earth, we then allowed the knowledge to be spread from britain to France, Germany and USA. At the same time the almost equally as great, scientific and technological revolution was happening in britain, and as before, we kept the bennifits to ourselves only for a few decades, to increase our lead and strength and technological and scientific lead, which britain was by then a century more advanced than any of our traditional competition. It was the huge advantage that this technological, scientific, industrial, and medical dominance of britain over the rest of the world, that helped britain to conquer the planet and force its culture and language and religeon on the world. In a small space of time, britain, this small island in the north sea, not only conquered, but conquered and assimilated most of the planet, but most importantly of all is that in such a small space of time, the ingenious, industrious British, invented a huge, world changing number of world changing inventions and also created almost every major sports, and allmost all sports. In short, britain did what no other counyry has ever done, we created a new age, something that only happens every hundreds of thousands of years, and never by one country, in all human history there have been four ages, first there was the stone age, then came the bronze age, then came the iron age, and then, through just one magnificent country, great britain, there was the industrial age, and the entire modern world. And the great thing with britain is, that’s just one of they’re innumerable achievments, including the biggest ever empire, most inventions, dominant language, invented democracy and modern law and scientific method, Protestantism. No other nation can match the achievments of britain, and certainly not France, to even try to compare France to great britain, is an insult to great Britain, France is a cool country, but they are no where close to being in the same league as great britain, the whole world can see that
I must say that I really have been watching the London 2012 Olympics very closely, ever since the games were awarded to london in 2005, the French eeew hateful, because it looked like Paris might win the bid to host the games, bit the London bid was better, and when the Olympic commitee awarded the Olympic 2012 games to London, the whole of britain celebrated, but the whole of France were bitter with anger and hate, even their media, it was sickening racism that the jelous French showed agqinst Britain, but we were the bigger man, and so forgave them. At the last oltmpics in Beijing, four years ago, britain was the top European country again in the medal table, and finnished fourth. At the London Olympics this summer, we were even better, and finnished third, we got more medals than frqnce, germany,italy,Spain and Holland COMBINED, britain is the only European superpower, we just won the us open in tennis, our golfers are the best in the world and win all the majors, we are the best at rugby, we are the best at cycling, we are the best qt sailing, we are the best at rowing, we are the best at kqboing, we are the best at fencing, we are the vest at boxing, we are the best at taekwondo, we are the best at, we ate kyqking, we are the beat at white water rafting, we are the best at long jump, we are the best at heptaflon, we are the best qt decathlon, we are the best at pentathlon, we are the best at modern decathlob, we are the best at juddo
Britain dominates formula one racing, nearly the whole sport and qll tge teams of formula one are British or based in britain, even the foreign teams qre based in britain and run by British people at the top, british bosses, British designers, British engineers, British computer wizards, british mechanics, and all thw worked famous British racers and British teams that mwje doemula one, British Bernie eccelatone who controlled the whole thing, ans the entire formula one is a British construct and sport.
The biggese sport and leafue ov the world is the English premier league, it is vy far the rixhest and most dominant leaguw on earth, with more supporters all around the world than any other leagues or clubs. The world rally championship is alao q lqrgwly English sport and dominated by British, so is snooker, so is pool, so is darts, so is bowls, they are all British dominated sports, so is rugby, so is cricket, so is cycling, and these days preety much every sport, britain does great in these days, britain is the only real olympic power left in Europe, Europe only has one sporting and olympic superpower left to celebrate, and that is britain, which is apt, as it was britain that invented almost every sport that exists today, and even created the very concept of modern sport
J’avais lu ça sur Le Monde, il y a quelques jours : c’est assez lamentable, quant à “la blague” de The Office, digne de la période faste 2002-2005 à mon avis. Concernant 30th Rock c’est à qualifier dans la catégorie des stéréotype idiots, pas vraiment du French Bashing en fait, pas de la meilleure eau en tout cas. Mais bon si j’ai bien compris le concept sous-jacent de cette série, que je ne regarde pas parce que j’ai autre chose à foutre dans la vie, c’est à propos de trentenaires qui se lamentent de ne plus avoir vingt ans ? Si c’est bien le cas c’est plutôt pathétique en soi.
Je remarque néanmoins une tendance dans la presse française, depuis un peu plus d’un an environ : nos journalistes, si aveugles et veules d’habitudes, surtout en ce qui concerne l’Amérique, commencent enfin, mais très timidement, à s’aviser que nous sommes le “punching ball” du monde Anglo-Saxon. “L’affaire” Kate Middleton (superbe coup de pub, non ?) où le ton plus qu’acrimonieux de la presse Britannique, en plus que leur ridicule prétention moralisatrice, a, je pense, j’espère en tout cas, désillé les yeux de la presse française et qu’elle est désormais revenue de son anglomanie pavlovienne. En tout cas certaines attaques trop stupides ou grossières ne passent plus aussi facilement, et ne sont plus ignorées.
L’Article de Rue89, est particulièrement révélateur, sur un article du Daily Mail, particulièrement fielleux, sur Valérie Treweiller : mais il est vrai qu’on attaque ici une personnalité marquée à gauche, ce qui explique le réveil, légitime en soi, de certains journaux, il suffit de voir les réactions outrées du Figaro quand ils s’en prennaient à Carlita, avec leur délicatesse habituelle, il faut dire…
I just saw “Hotel Transylvania,” and it featured some subversive French bashing via the character of Quasimoto. I know Pixar loves to bash the French, and Dreamworks might as well. But this movie came from Sony, so I guess they wanted to conform. Then again, Robert Smigel was the co-writer.
https://twitter.com/AaronHEllis/statuses/254595885944688640
He find that “hilarious”…
An other Tracy Jordan comment:
“Since its founding early this afternoon, the National Associations for Zero Intolerance, or NAZI…we should change that”
Je voudrais lancer un concours pour aider Jay Leno a faire une mise a jour sur ces deux blagues.
“People ask what drives him. I can understand what “drove” Lance Armstrong; if I was an American traveling in France, I’d like to get through that country as fast as I could.”
“Lance Armstrong just won his fifth Tour de France. You know, that means he now has more victories in France than the German army. And the Germans only marched through twice – he did it five times.”
But judging by your spelling mistakes, London is perhaps no longer the capital of English literacy these days.
Now there is no doubt in my mind that England is a great country, with considerable achievements and legacy, and a ‘splendid’ culture I might add (for the few over there who still retain it), and what’s more I’ve married one of its birds and live in one of its ex-dominion, Australia. But judging by the many citizens leaving it in a hurry to come here, and telling me what a dump whole it’s become, it looks to me in the final phase of being swallowed up and digested by globalisation, like every other country.
And as per your knowledge of about everything, it seems to be out of a book written by English people for English people nostalgic of the good old times. Hey Marc, we should write one just the same but for France, listing French success in Science, Arts, Sports and so on while ignoring the rest of the world. It would sound the same and take some room too.
Now let’s see:
– Wealth, I think, is the stuff of empires plundering the rest of the world, or imposing their larger economy to it (with sometimes the help of their military muscles), and on a more positive note, an achievement of the protestant ethic and capitalism, which is not just English, but also Dutch and German, and even partly French I would have thought. And correct me if I’m wrong but, of the late, it seems to me that when it comes to business, the English-speaking world is being quite overtaken by the Asian world.
– The greatest and more numerous inventors by now are from America, not England, a country which was allowed to exist thanks to France (although this is not a popular topic at the moment), and whose most important ethnic group composing part of its population – since it’s been anything at all – is not the English, by the way, but the German. And judging by the quantity of brevets output, China, once again, is looking like it will soon top that.
– Talking about the Germans, Hitler’s Germany was condemned in Nuremberg as one of the most horrible thing that ever happened, not because it offended the fab five by wearing ugly brown shirts, but because they did the following: 1) Invasion of land, 2) Genocide, 3) Enslavement of people, and a few other nasty things. Now here’s one for you, Straa: take any of the countries you so proudly listed from the British Empire’s legacy, including the USA, put a tick box in front the above 1, 2, and 3, and ask yourself this question: How is it again that these countries came to be here today? Ouch. A good thing they’re rich, militarily equipped, and tend to write their own history for everyone else to read.
– “France was a primitive country before the English came and bought (I will assume here it’s brought, since at that time, they weren’t that rich) you some civilisation…” And me who thought it was the Romans who brought civilisation to the French, and then to the Brits, defeating Vercingetorix like they later defeated Boadicea. Until that time, the Brits were going with they dick in the air, with swirly symbols painted around it. They were called the Picts. Then, in 1066, from Normandy came Guillaume, a French-speaking descendant of Vikings, who brought French civilisation to you before you could become anything. He brought with him French architects, the bests of the time, who built all your cathedrals and castles, so called Gothic Art being a French creation. The rest, you own the Greeks and the Italians.
– Indeed the Brits won many spectacular battles after this, you just seem to forget the many they then lost to the French for France to become free again, just as spectacular, like when Philippe Auguste besieged and took Richard the Lion’s heart fortress and kicked your splendidly fortified British arses.
– Napoleon defeat was the result of many other countries fighting against France, and not just England. Least of which is Russia, who in reality won the bulk of the war. And he would have won Waterloo too if it hadn’t been for the arrival of the Prussians (sounds like Scooby-Doo). Like Hitler, in today’s moral he lost above all because his cause was wrong. As written above, though, this moral is lost on the English-speaking world’s conquests, whose people successfully massacred most the native populations by the millions, women and children included, having therefore not much adversity to worry about later on, and creating a nice little future for themselves. There lies the bulk of England’s success. History is a vast hypocrisy written to fit the interests of some. Quebec and the wars of that era were won in the same manner that the Japanese won Pearl Harbour. The British launched a surprise attack to destroy their fleet, without any declaration of war, while pretending to negotiate with the French. In Quebec and America, the French were then deprived of support and vastly outnumbered. Roosevelt would have called this an infamy, would he not? As per the defeat of 1940, France paid the ultimate price for its sacrifice during the first world war, much more consequent than that of England, as the war also ravaged its land. America (its business world), sided with Germany between the two world wars, who became more powerful than France, and that until 1941 when Hitler declared the war to America, not the other way around. England and France both lost the war together at the beginning. England was, once again – once more, only saved by the Channel, which gave it a second chance that France never got. It is not so well known (what a surprise) that the German invaded the Channel Islands. There, the British population surrendered, collaborated and did not resist whatsoever. Hadn’t it been for Churchill, a part of the British elite, including some royals, were ready to do the same. In no small part, England owns it success to its geography, her people are generally no better than any one else. By comparison, they were much fewer periods when France was not under attack by one or several of its neighbours, and therefore conquered, and hence divided and weakened. But in those periods, France flourished with magnificent classical creations.
France has also developed an art of living that the entire world has adopted in one way or another, including England, who’s restaurants and cooking used to be a joke.
– Britain do have a great Premier League, but with great stupidity in my mind, they spend an absolute fortune on soccer teams – and the complete twarts that play for them, money that would be better spent on their dreadful urban suburbs, rather than entertaining them. That in turn could save us some of the reality shows featuring the many drunk, dumb, doped and degenerate people that have also come to be the face of England these days, at home and abroad. And they did invent many sports, but for the spirit of sports and the Olympics, you’ll have to thank Baron Pierre de Coubertin.
France’s history, particularly the past two centuries, certainly contains its lot of painful episodes. But in the end, just like Britain, it has much to be proud of.
Britain won the war because of our string navy and airforce, we concentrated our efforts there because we are an island, France concentrated their efforts on their army and lost, badly, if britain was on the continebt we would of concentrated more on our army, we fought with our military, navy airforce, and won, France fought with their military, army, and lost, end of. And in the napoleonic wars, france had many allies who fought with them, but britain still beat them all, and napoleon died in a British prison cell LOL
Well, you obviously don’t have much to reply to what I wrote, and as in similar immature cases of “hey-Frenchy-look-which-Brit-can-piss-the-furthest” you find yourself going back to Napoleon and the Battle of Britain. Unfortunately even then, your historical knowledge is weak.
Like many French, I don’t think much of Napoleon, an opportunistic ego who rose from the chaos of the French Revolution, an episode of horror that had considerably weakened France, and which was in good part the consequence of having helped America get its independence, leaving France financially ruined. All of this a vicious war cycle inherited from the middle ages, France having helped America to retaliate for the loss of Quebec, with both countries at each other’s throat since the dynastic wars started by Guillaume of Normandy.
During the Napoleonic wars, France was on its own, having only the half baked support of the temporary allies it had conquered, which were wiped out, together with the bulk of its army, during the Russian campaign. Before that, he had only lost at sea. England repeatedly formed coalitions with Dutch, Prussians, Austrians, Russians, Portuguese, Spanish and others. Many men of these nationalities, like also Italians, were serving on Nelson’s fleet at Trafalgar, the English sailors composing only a part of the crews. And they formed Regiments who found themselves next to Wellington all along. Added to that, following the Russian retreat, Napoleon had lost support of a good deal of the French, who were fed up with him and his wars, which is why he had to abdicate the first time. When he escaped and came back the second time for the 100 days, he could only gather the support of limited part of France, other parts, like the entire West, revolted against him. After Waterloo, where he lost the last French supporters he had, it is him who gave himself to England, for that was his safest bet if he wanted to stay alive. England certainly played a key role in his demise, but the bedtime story of England defeating him on its own is just that: a myth.
As per the Battle of Britain, beside that you’re simply repeating what I said in a different way – it is geography that first saved England – as its army was trashed on the continent. But even then you’re missing some pieces: the so-called lack of preparation of France and the Battle of Britain, as told by people like you, is also a lot of bulls.
The Germans new that they lost the First World War because they tried to invest in their army equally on all sides, including in the navy, which meant they ended up producing less guns and tanks. So accepting they were mostly a continental power, they first concentrated on developing the Wehrmacht and Lutwaffe. Good for England, bad for France. Even worse for France, the country had never recovered from the first war. The so-called Spanish influenza had killed more people than the war itself, depleting its population amongst the youngest generations, precisely the 20 year olds that would have been so crucially needed in 1939. Disgusted by the butchery of war, its people had become strongly pacifist, and on top of that, governments were destabilized by a strong communist movement. France was also ruined. It did what it could, but after the crash of 1929 ran out of money to finish the Maginot line, and match German military development. Germany, on the other hand, benefited from the massive help of American business world, who had sided with it, as well as the support of Staline’s Russia, who was himself planning the war behind the German’s back. Staline was also using the French communists to sabotage the French war effort in factories. Germany was then 80 million strong, whereas France was only 40 million. France was also deadlocked with England as an ally, and therefore following England’s political decisions. Declaring the war to Germany was a folly it was never able to assume.
Following the Battle of France, the Lutwaffe actually came very close to defeat England. When it first concentrated its strikes on the radars installations and the airfields, it did put the English Airforce on its knees. It is only by luck, if you can call it that, that a German bomber deviated from its military target and went to bomb London instead. Churchill retaliated and ordered Berlin to be bombed. Hitler got mad and diverted the entire bombing raids to the British cities. A strategic blunder that in the end lost him the Battle of England.
As per the English fleet, it’s not that it was so great, but rather that Germany didn’t have much. And actually when Germany started its submarine war, it there too came close to win. Had it not been for Roosevelt and America, it is very likely that England would have lost there too, or at best been isolated, starved and neutralized. Without America and Russia coming to the party, Britain would not have weighed much in this war.
Unsurprisingly, the British Empire also came to an end not long after the war. So no need to boast about it, it’s as gone as the good old French one.
But what really pisses me off is the cohorts of wannabes like you, who have little historical knowledge or understanding and reduce massive horrendous historical tragedies to an immature pissing contest. Like you’re worth more than any French out there. But then again, perhaps it’s to make you feel better, for given your level of literacy, I’m ready to bet you haven’t achieved much in life.
I won’t bother answering another of your comments. What I would appreciate though, is if you could go play somewhere else, like on fuckfrance.com, you’ll fit better there. This site is there to expose the very clichés people like yourself take pleasure at spreading, not to give them a tribune.
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