I am not hearing negatives, except from the expected sources. Generally, I hear “that’s a shame” and “better luck next time”. Fortunately, with the US winning, there is a lack of desire to bash anyone, except maybe England.
“”We Brits are perfectly happy to be called reserved, unexciting and a nation of alcoholics. We smile as our French friends pass jocular judgement on the lunacy and obsolescence of wall-to-wall carpets in every room. Our food is mercilessly derided.””
Oh my God, wall to wall carpet. Yeah that’s super offensive
As equally offensive as calling people cowards and smelly among other things.
In other news…..yesterday a French soldier was killed and another wounded in Afghanistan fighting world terrorism….French-bashers in the US and elsewhere are celebrating.
^^^
They’ll never even hear about it.
You think the American or British media are gonna run the risk of giving credit to French soldiers ?
Their viewership would probably send them death threats and rant about how “we saved their asses”.
Barney, you are so correct. I find it very hard to believe, but, many of my fellow Americans, that I mention French losses to, are taken aback, since they didn’t even know that the French were in Afganistan. Some still don’t believe me. VERY, very sad.
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Je viens de découvrir qu’il fallait payer maintenant pour avoir accès au blog de Bremner.
J’espère que ça va faire baisser la fréquentation de ce blog nauséabond.
J’espère surtout que les français qui participaient à ce blog ne vont pas accapter de payer pour se faire insulter par des xénophobes comme rocket et les autres.
Murdoch et sa bande de raclures sont assez riches comme ça.
Je viens de découvrir qu’il fallait payer maintenant pour avoir accès au blog de Bremn er.
J’espère que ça va faire baisser la fréquentation de ce blog nauséabond.
J’espère surtout que les français qui participaient à ce blog ne vont pas accepter de payer pour se faire insulter par des xénophobes comme r ocket et les autres.
Murdoch et sa bande de raclures sont assez riches comme ça.
Get a grip you whingers! Why get so bothered about a holywood film? There always has to be the vilains in these films. At the moment (and since the second gulf war) it’s the French’s turn to play the bad guys. Before that it was the British who were always the bad guys (see Braveheart) as an example, and before that the Germans.
These films should not be taken seriously.
Barney – Why should the French culture minister or officials comment on a holywood film? Why give any attention to it? Whether you like it or not there will always be anti-French, American, British, German, etc. attitudes, that’s just part of being from a country with a colonial history.
An elderly French citizen is murdered by Al-Qeda. Anti-French Americans celebrate. In other news, recently the Lebanese government is increasingly worried over4 the anti-French stance by Hezbollah after attacks on French UNIFIL troops. It is plainly obvious to everyone with half a brain, that American Conservatives /Republicans have more in common with Hezbollah terrorists than they care to admit.
France has been fighting Islamic terrorism LONG before 9/11, but you wouldn’t know that by reading comments on the Fox”News” website. Question, can hezbollah sleeper cells in the US register as Republicans in time for the next elections? Palin may need them.
Hello,
I have a great respect for this website & for you guys expressing how you feel. The US, has lost Vietnam, Iraq & almost losing Afganistan…. The US spends more money (than anyone else on the planet ) on marketing the news and delivering fake news… The Vietnam war was based on lies and everything else . How can you believe anything that comes from the US?. People are not informed and repeat what they hear…. Some Americans are more educated and do not bother to put anyone down for that matter…. Remember that Jay Leno, Letterman put politicians down as well….
Your friend,
Anne.
This is the network that got the US into the Iraq War. Come to think of it, just about anything bad, including being the pump for French-bashing, has its’ source at Fox. Any time that I have watched, I find myself getting ill, so, I quit watching long ago.
As a Brit who visited the USA and was unfortunate enough to catch some of Fox news’s output I was stunned by the complete lack of balance and heavy right-wing bias shown by this channel. Do people actually watch this in the states?
It is quite astonishing that the richest country in the world produces such utter drivel
Hi all, long time no speak.
Someone on TurnoffFox said Fox was lazy journalism, sensationalism, etc.
While Fox is paramount in all that should not be called journalism, with grim consequences as we all know, journalism in general has lost a lot of credit over the years : journalists merely doing copy/pastes of other articles, without added value nor even the most basic verifications, for the sake of being “productive” and feed their audiences with growing BS. Besides sensationalist articles have been growing in number, leaving contextual, in-depth, literate articles/shows on the side of the road.
Fox started out with sensationalism, until they smilingly entered the dark side big time. How many Fox news alter ego will we have the displeasure (the obligation?) to watch in days to come?
Thanks for sending me this on Twitter. I agree that the French surrender misnomer is greatly overused and not historically accurate. It is too inconvenient for the person(s) to look into history and understand how this got started. France lost 50% of its male population in WW1. Normally a loss on this scale means the start of an end to a nation. The attitude of appeasement was heavily endorsed by the French teachers union and was understandable because they were trying to preserve the youth in order to keep the nation alive. Everyone knew they could not remain sustainable if they (France) experienced a similar loss again. Unfortunately this is part of pre-WW2 history is really not taught in our public school system and rarely appears in the arena of higher education (unless your area of study happens to be 20th century European history). I myself didnt learn about this until I was living in France
French basher? No at all Barney. An interested party who sometimes feels that he has to comment on anti-British comments on this site. I’m fighting ignorance and prejudice, like you
I like to come back to this site every once in while to marvel at the anti-English ranting of Fred and he rarely disappoints in his ignorance.
Let me put you straight on a few of your most pointless and inane comments.
1 – “France was fighting France during the Hundred Years War !
Are you out of your cotton-picking mind?” – No, that’s not what I said, but the war was not just a case of “France v England” it was much more complex than that. At this point in time the kingdoms of France and England were very much intertwined and it was a battle between two ROYAL houses one based in England and another in France. How was it England V France if Burgundy, Aquitaine, Portugal and the Navarre were fighting on the English side? Despite this though the House of Plantagenet based in England won most of the major battles and considerably enriched England as a result, so the French were hardly the “unbeatable foe”
However, despite the many losses suffered by France against the English in history, I would not say the French were not brave. Who can forget the brave stand of the French section of the SS, the Charlemagne Division, numbering 7,000 strong in 1944 who fought the Russians hard at Korlin. And what about the Vichy French forces who put up a brave fight against the US and British forces in North Africa? Specifically in Oran and Morocco where the allies thought the French would surrender.
2- the British stand at Singapore during WW II. Yamashita, go get ‘em – Yep, we surrendered here, but kept on fighting (on the right side). At least we didn’t collaborate with the Japanese like the French did in Vietnam though.
3- “What is it that you find favorable; inasmuch,
these people gave the “Anglo” a terrible beating anytime there was a clash”
Not really, some the Germanic tribes that entered England where from the area of present day Denmark, so that explains the Scandinavian influence in England. Have you never heard of the Battle of Stamford Bridge?
4- “As any Scotsman or Welshman will tell you there was no question of choice in the matter. They were effectively crushed and the ‘upper snuffs’ made the decision for them. England proper, being the size of a postage stamp, needed to grow to survive; moreover, these conquered people (Celts) made excellent cannon-fodder to have on hand for the future. Beware the Welsh bowman”
You assume that the average English was in favour of the act of Union when this was not the case. The Scots (and Welsh) did very well out of the British Empire, thank you very much, as Scotland’s attempt to found an empire had come to nothing.
By the way, just so you know, it was the Normans who initially conquered parts of Wales and Ireland and not the Angles or Saxons.
But you have a point about the “celts” (whatever celt means) being used as “cannon fodder”. But what else were they good for? The Scots, Irish and Welsh were, on the whole, a drunken, disorganised rabble, but one thing you can say about them is that they like a fight. Perfect cannon fodder, much like the Algerians to the French.
5- Concerning the Norman conquest you said “As I remarked earlier, the victory was to have lasting consequence for the better in so many ways”.
Well, if you think the colonisation of Ireland and the subjugation of Wales was a positive thing, then you are indeed right. The Norman invasion did nothing for England.
“Who can forget the brave stand of the French section of the SS, the Charlemagne Division”
“…Vichy French forces who put up a brave fight against the US and British forces in North Africa?”
I take it then, you’re some kind of admirer of the SS/Vichy forces ( alot of them in the US/UK), or did you conveniently forget the tens of thousands of French who fought and died under the colors of Free France and in the Underground? The so-called “bravery” of the SS/Vichy pales in comparison to the sacrifices made by Free French troops or the Resistance. Of course, French-bashers such as yourself tend to weasel their way out of having to give gratitude to them- better to deny they ever existed, right? Funny how selective memory works, wot?
poilu – thank you for making this clear. My grandpa certainly is grateful as well, wherever he is now. He was 20 when he went to war. He left us a diary which he wrote during war time, successively as a fighter, a prisoner, a fugitive, a prisoner again, a fugitive, a fighter again, then eventually the war was over and his life could start at last. He survived but many of his pals were killed, tortured, blown into pieces, or “just” maimed. Surrender monkeys? Yeah right…
Will these rants about how many battles did the French/English/Martians win/lose, how brave they were, how far can we pee, never end?
Miquelon.org is concerned first and foremost with French-bashing, thebigm.
People who come here only to lecture us about anti-British comments which on this site are marginal at best and always an exasperated answer to vicious French-bashing are apologists for French-bashing.
You’re not fooling anyone.
Shouldn’t the villains be Normans instead of French ?
According to the bigm, a French English history scholar if there ever was one, the French are a cowardly and idiotic bunch incapable of matching wits or swords with the English Supermen so what were all those French people doing in England messing with Robin Hood ?
So many comments makes the site a bit confusing to navigate. Maybe only show a portion at a time? You have some great info on here and it’s a shame that it gets hidden by all the comments.
Oui, c’est aussi ce qui m’a choqué par exemple pour ce qui est des films anti-Français sortant en France.
Les Français de métropole semblent être mal informés sur ce phénomène, au point où ils réagissent positivement au French-Bashing, en n’étant pas conscient, comme s’il s’agissait d’une auto-critique satirique venant d’autres Français.
Et ils laissent sur le net des commentaires ravis concernant des films qui sont conçus pour insulter et ridiculiser leur identité.
Well, it’s not southpark that makes fun of the french, it’s everyone. The French are so damn arrogant and live in their own little world, that they just don’t realize that all their neighbours for example, have similar views and jokes about them: the Brits, the Germans, the Spaniards… It’s the only country that’s “hated” by its neighbours.
So tell me, is it any different when the french call the Greeks for example, gay? I mean, it is quite ironic (and please be honest to yourselves and accept it) cos the french are the most effeminate men in Europe. And you know it. So yeah, having mentioned all the above reasons + adding a lil humor, we can say that southpark is not only funny, but awesome!
Why don’t you try and back up with facts and statistics every single one of your retarded sweeping generalizations ?
Just because you’re a French hater doesn’t mean everybody is. Go back to ffrance.com.
Un truc qui m’a rendu furax.
Un article publié par le site de TF1 sur les élections mid terms à Paris.
Les journalistes interrogent des américains de Paris sur le mouvement Tea Party.
Erik Svane, un ancien électeur de Bill Clinton qui se présente lui-même aujourd’hui comme un sympathisant du, a évidemment une autre vision. “Cet échange montre à quel point on le Tea Party diabolise, notamment dans la presse américaine distribuée en France. On veut faire passer les partisans du Te Party comme des fous ou des blaireaux. Je voulais remettre les pendules à l’heure“, lance-t-il.
http://lci.tf1.fr/monde/amerique/2010-10/a-paris-democrates-et-republicains-s-affrontent-aussi-pour-les-6116652.html
Erik Svane est le propriétaire du site anti-français et raciste anti arabe/musulman no pasaran.
Je ne sais pas si les journalistes de TF1 sont au courant de qui est vraiment ce type là et des idées qui sont les siennes..
En tous cas on n’ a pas l’impression que Svane se soit présenté comme proprétaire d’un site anti-fraçais et musulman devant ces journalistes français.
La lâcheté sans doute.
Il est sacrément culotté quand même pour se présenter comme un modéré.
Ça montre bien ce qui se cache derrière le mouvement Tea Party.
Je pense qu’il faudrait qu’on informe LCI sur cette personne parce que on est pas loin de la désinformation là.
Qu’est ce que tu en penses ?
You wrote “Je ne sais pas si les journalistes de TF1 sont au courant de qui est vraiment ce type là et des idées qui sont les siennes..
En tous cas on n’ a pas l’impression que Svane se soit présenté comme proprétaire d’un site anti-fraçais et musulman devant ces journalistes français.”
It is incredible how Eric Svane manages to pass himself off as a credible source, but it is also clear that TF1 and others have no idea who he is or what he represents through his blog. It is up to people like us to make this information more transparent. I have already written to TF1, everyone else should do the same.
Eric Svane exhibits, strangely enough, behaviour often found on the far Left – a hatred for one’s own country.
Not really Barney. But why on a site which fights against French bashing do you allow Fred’s racist/offensive comments against the British to pass without comment? Surely you stand for respect for all countries/allies? Or am I wrong? Who is the hypocrite here?
Surely the bravery of the Vichy French forces is just as important as that of the Free French who were mostly colonial troops.
Just as many French supported the Vichy French as the Free French, as did the French colonies.
To Miquelon: Should either of these characters, Leno or Conan, return to French bashing, planned measures in/of response should be in the offing. One measure among others might be considered, to wit: Being an orderly, live-show, walk-on by a small party — of identity by arm-band [tri-color w/FFI ? (the arm-band tells it all !)]. Security would, of course, intervene in this instance(s) for learning cause; this, prior to escorting said party off the premises. We can deduce that “physical action” –as such, opposed to mere “re-action” from a provided literature-learning source might elucidate the offender to a fuller extent; again, it must be asked if anything other than a fist-in-the-face serves purpose. Would be good to hear from you; also, from Barney, Andre, Fred Orth and others.
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